Post title: Not the flag, not the wind- mind is moving (from Warner's Hardcore Zen blog)
(Mar 17 2012 at 10:38 AM)
Hey John- the mind and the flag, a good one! The sage points not only to the mind that moves, as it were, but to a relationship between that movement and a seemingly unrelated event. Reminds me that there are no unreleated events, when the placement of consciousness incoporates the phenomena of mind before words appear. Isn't that the message of pyschics and Zen-stuff-ers?
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(Mar 17 2012 at 10:40 AM)
You may recall my comment here on this blog, Mark, when you first posted the link to the Waking and going to Sleep essay. I mentioned how if you meditate before sleep and are able to suspend (by no means or will of your own of course) thoughts, empty the mind of the "inner dialogue" (although I would argue it is a monologue after all) images come rushing in. The trick, where some degree of effort must be expended, is to recognize -to become conscious of- the transition between this and dreaming. There is also a point when waking up where it is possible to distinguish between the dream and "waking up."
Why do this at all? Because rather than arbitrarily separating consciousness into pieces just because you've been taught that "this is sleep, that is awake" you begin to see the flow and eventually see it all as one thing, that has no beginning or end, or even middle. With this knowledge, as Fred mentioned, concepts like "the Unborn" make a whole hella more sense.
You bring that back to the cushion, and in my experience at least, your sense of time is infinite, you may sit for 15 min or two hours and not be able to distinguish between them.
Of what value is this? None that I know of.
(Mar 18 2012 at 10:39 AM)
My friend John E. says:
"Instead of thinking of this and that, one thing after the other, let your mind recognize itself in a single moment. When the mind recognizes itself, there is no thing to see there. It’s just wide open. That’s because the essence of mind is empty. It’s wide open and free."
(Tsoknyi Rinpoche, "Dissolving the Confusion")
This is the state of mind so to speak (or no-mind) I described as present prior to sleep and recognizable just waking up as dreams fade and thoughts "I should get up!" arrive. It seems to happen so quickly most of us do not notice the transition (actually it is everpresent even when thoughts arise). It is all of a (one) piece.
(Mar 18 2012 at 10:41 AM)
The other side for me is that "when the mind recognizes itself" in a single moment, action takes place by virtue of that recognition. So when I sit, I actually recognize the mind that is sitting. Sometimes the mind I recognize does something I didn't consciously expect to do, that's when I feel my life is ruined. Ha ha!
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